One for the Record
The following is something that I put together for his attorney. She never used one single thing that I gave her. Not from this or from anything else. The first is from the Trooper report and the second is from the Grand Jury. I had them side by side but this program won’t allow me to print it that way so it will be one after the other.
Trooper Interview
January 28, 2009
A1 told Trooper that we came up here from Oregon and spent time in Cal. and Kentucky. We spent no time in Cal. and no one in our family has ever been to Kentucky.
A1 says she was good friends with Zeb’s ex-girlfriend, Stacy Begely. We had not been here long enough to have an ex-girlfriend, and he has no idea who Stacy Begely is. He has never heard of her. So there is the second lie.
A1 says that she gave Zeb a ride home from the church prom. No mention of the fact that she gave him a ride to the dance, which was in Eagle River. Doesn’t mention that she actually dropped Zeb off and left in a hurry because she was late getting home and was going to be in a lot of trouble from her dad. Her mom told Zeb’s mom that earlier in the evening. She was not there long enough for Zeb to walk around to the driver’s side and try to get her out of the pickup. Had that happened we would have seen it as we were home. It was 2300, which was the time that she was supposed to be at her house. She does not mention that she had actually picked Zeb up for the dance and came in and met us at that time. We have a picture of her and Zeb in their dress clothes standing in our living room. Why does she not mention that little FACT?
The following Monday she started spreading the lie that Zeb had tried to rape her at our house after the dance. Again we were home.
Page 278, 8th paragraph she said she went into our house to meet “Tina Whisler”. Again, no mention that she met us the night of the dance as the picture proves!
Grand Jury
February 25, 2009
Note: all the DA’s questions are leading questions. I thought that was a no-no!
The DA calls her attention to March of 2003. Then asks “Did you give Zeb Whisler a ride on that day?”pg. 48, lines 17 thru 20! What day? Where did she give him a ride from? Sounds like from school. She never mentions the Dance at all in the Grand Jury. Why is that? That’s what she mentions first in the trooper interview. We have a photo of them dressed up.
Pg. 48 lines 7 and 8, she says she went in the house to meet his family. Again she did not mention the FACT that we had already met and the picture proves it! That was the night of the dance and she never mentions the dance at all to the Grand Jury.
A1 says that Zeb put her in a chair and sat on her while he took her shirt off. How could to people that big both sit in the same chair and he could still get her shirt off? She says she started yelling at Zeb. Then his brother walked out into the garage. But she was in shock and didn’t say anything to him. I thought she just said that she was yelling at Zeb. In that small house his brother would have heard!!!!!
She tells the Trooper that Zeb had his pants undone, but still on and she wiggled out from under him, grabbed her blouse and ran out the side door. The side door was blocked with a dresser so that the kids couldn’t just sneak in and out!
On page 278 she says that a couple of weeks later there was a big wind storm. The windstorm was before the dance so this statement is incorrect.
She says that she told the secretary and the principal at high school what happened in the school and that the principal told her not to worry about it. The principal has no knowledge of it. He would have been required by law to do something.
pg. 279 she says that Zeb accused her father of assaulting him and officers responded and that the accusation was proven false. Where is the police report on that load of crap? The fact is that her dad told Zeb that he would kill him and his whole family and I, (Dean Whisler), tried to file charges against him for Terroristic Threatening.
On page 279 midway she states that her mom pointed out that Zeb was in the middle of the highway holding up traffic and staring at them in his car. Then he followed them in his car.
Please describe the car.
pg. 48 line 11. She said that no one was home except his brother. If she had given him a ride home his brother would not have been there yet as he rode the bus and it didn’t get there for a while. His attorney and investigator know it was actually his sister that came into the room.
pg. 48 line 16 she still mentions the chair but then the story changes. pg. 49 line 1 she now says that he undid her belt and pants. Then in line 5 she says he raped her. No mention of rape in the first interview. She told the Trooper that she ran out the door. That’s a mighty big change. What happened to his brother coming into the room and her using that time to get away?
Now she says that she had given him a ride home a few times because of the storm. So which was it?
No mention of telling the principal at the grand jury. Why not? Did she realize that the grand jury would want to hear from the principle and that her lie would be uncovered?
No mention of this to the Grand Jury. I guess she couldn’t remember that part of the lie.
Pg54 line 15 – 18. He parked his car in the middle to the road. Do I need to say it again? He had no car or driver’s license.
HE DID NOT HAVE A CAR OR A DRIVERS LICENSE. IF HE HAD ONE HE WOULD NOT HAVE NEEDED THE RIDES HOME THAT SHE CLAIMS TO HAVE GIVEN HIM.
pg. 279. She tells the Trooper that Zeb parked in the street in front of her house for hours. She says that Officer Anthony of PPD was called and just told her to get a protective order. First, again, he had no car and no driver’s license. So how could he park in the street? If you check with officer Anthony I think you will find that we actually went to her about the accusations and when A1 came in a day or two later she ran out of the building when Officer Anthony suggested she take a lie detector test.
pg. 279 she says that he ran Billy Schumacher off the road with his car. Again no car and no license. He and Billy were buddies. Your investigator asked Billy the wrong question. She did not say that Billy ran her off the road. Please get the facts straight.
On the bottom of page 279 she says that she and Tina were called in to the Bishops office. Well we were in different wards so they would have seen different bishops. Why wasn’t Dean also called in? That statement about messing with Wyoming girls is pretty stupid. Why I thought that she said we came from Oregon, via Kentucky, which none of us have ever been to. Then the Trooper says that A1 gave him the names of several other girls. WHO? She moved away so whom would she know. In fact this interview was on the 28th and she supposedly says that she did not know A3 or A4, who were not interviewed until the 2nd of Feb. So if she didn’t know them then how did their names even come up? In fact her brother hung out with A4 the summer of 2008, not a long time
pg. 53 line 13 on. She says that he was just sitting in the street for about 3 hours. When asked if she was home she said for part of it. Asked if he just left she said, “he must have because he wasn’t there when I got home.” If she wasn’t home then how did she know how long he was there? She never mentioned to the Trooper that she had left the house. She tells of him stopping in the middle of the highway. Need I say it again, NO CAR NO LICENSE!!!
On page 55 he asked her if all this was done without her permission. I thought that was already insinuated.
On page 56 she talks about being afraid of us and that we might hurt her or her family. Where did she get that idea? We made no calls and had no contact with any of them. We did go to the bishops, and to PPD and let them know that she was spreading lies in church and school. But we did not contact them. In fact on page 283 of Trooper Dunford’s report he states that “neither Dean nor Tina Whisler had contacted her”.
Pg. 56 lines 20 – 23 she states that it took Dunford two to three weeks of calling her before she trusted him enough to tell him everything. Dunford’s report shows that she told him what happened on the 28th of January, which means one of two things. Either she perjured herself on the Grand Jury or Dunford started calling her somewhere between the 7th to the 14th of January, which would mean that his testimony is a lie and that he was in the middle of a conspiracy to falsely
ago. She says that Zeb bragged about us having money. Not at that time we didn’t.
Now on page 283 Dunford says that he did another interview with Amanda on the 4th of February. Interesting how the recorder didn’t work right, OK LET’S HAVE A LISTEN TO THE RECORDING!!!!!The Troopers seem to have had a lot of trouble with recordings during this case. Since as it states that we never contacted her then why would she be afraid of us? Maybe because we can prove what a lying piece of trash she is?
The stories of what happened in the school don’t match up. Then she says that at the school there was no one in the hall between periods. OH FOR CRYING OUT LOUD
On page 283 and 284 Dunford says that he reviewed what he had learned in the previous interview with A1. On 284 he says that A1 told him that Zeb rubbed her vagina with his hand and put his fingers inside her. Then he put his penis inside her. She never said either of those things. In fact she said she got out from under him and ran out a blocked door. He supposedly said “oh come on I know you like it” and “what’s wrong with you know you like it.” That is not in the first interview or the grand jury testimony. She’s not sure how she got from the chair to the bed, oh please!!!!! Now she names Zeb’s younger brother, or did the Trooper just make that up. Next she states that she did not want to talk to the trooper about what had happened the first time he called. She told him a whole bunch of stuff and he just reviewed it on this page. The second call was only 7 days later. What happened to the 2 or 3 weeks. .
prosecute Zeb. Those are the only 2 options. CONSPIRACY OR PERJURY
The DA says tells the Jury that the touching in the school is count X but doesn’t mention it’s also count XI.
None of this is in the Grand Jury testimony. Only that he raped her. Not a thing about his fingers.
On page 49 line 16 she says “not more than five to seven minutes”. Interesting but the same phrase is used by one of the other girls.
This second one is not a new story, just a repeat of the previous one with a couple of changes. Who’s idea was that hers or the Troopers? Anyone that had been attacked by someone would not go out with them again, especially to the same place.
HOW MANY LIES CAN A PERSON TELL WITHOUT BEING CHARGED WITH PERJURY AND GIVING FALSE STATEMENT????????